Comments on: The Remix Society http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/08/06/the-remix-society/ We've moved on... Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:30:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: soulcradler http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/08/06/the-remix-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1241 soulcradler Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:45:18 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/?p=366#comment-1241 Hi Chris, On this topic, you might be interested in a book I have just finished reading: The Pirates Dilemma by Matt Mason. Enjoy. Hi Chris,

On this topic, you might be interested in a book I have just finished reading: The Pirates Dilemma by Matt Mason. Enjoy.

]]> By: Anne Baird http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/08/06/the-remix-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1152 Anne Baird Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:01:54 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/?p=366#comment-1152 This is such an interesting issue and one that clearly we are all grappling with in our schools. Especially those who are encouraging students to create as well as consume. I agree with Darren. There is plenty of material out there that is CC licensed. A study of CC and copyright licenses is an ideal way to engender discussion around what is and should be protected and what and should be shared. It is after all up to the creator I guess. But as Chris says then it starts to get messy when you begin to mash many ideas and creations into another idea or creation. It is clearly something we have been and will be grappling with from now on. This is such an interesting issue and one that clearly we are all grappling with in our schools. Especially those who are encouraging students to create as well as consume.
I agree with Darren. There is plenty of material out there that is CC licensed. A study of CC and copyright licenses is an ideal way to engender discussion around what is and should be protected and what and should be shared. It is after all up to the creator I guess. But as Chris says then it starts to get messy when you begin to mash many ideas and creations into another idea or creation.
It is clearly something we have been and will be grappling with from now on.

]]> By: Darren http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/08/06/the-remix-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1148 Darren Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:32:19 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/?p=366#comment-1148 Hi Chris I don't think the copyright laws (although outdated) are holding creativity back. The laws are there to protect the rights of authors that wish to be protected. Authors that release works under creative commons are assisting in the creativity continuing into the future. There is plenty of images, videos and music available under the various CC licenses. The easiest way to avoid copyright issues is to use media that is outside the scope of protection. As for the creativity, shouldn't educators be encouraging the kids to create their own music using say Audacity, Mixcraft or Garageband and all the freely available loops and sounds that are available. Hi Chris

I don’t think the copyright laws (although outdated) are holding creativity back. The laws are there to protect the rights of authors that wish to be protected. Authors that release works under creative commons are assisting in the creativity continuing into the future.

There is plenty of images, videos and music available under the various CC licenses.

The easiest way to avoid copyright issues is to use media that is outside the scope of protection.

As for the creativity, shouldn’t educators be encouraging the kids to create their own music using say Audacity, Mixcraft or Garageband and all the freely available loops and sounds that are available.

]]> By: xpatasia http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/08/06/the-remix-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1147 xpatasia Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:58:56 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/?p=366#comment-1147 Hi Chris, Great post! I agree with all that you have said. We are holding kids and teachers back. I know myself that even the time that it takes me to acknowledge the media I use in presentations and postings is time consuming and can be the straw that does it for the busy teacher trying to use ICT in classes. On the other side, Chris Morris above has a point. Like a lot of things, I think we are in a transitional period and I think that like you and I, most people with something to contribute will be happy to share them gratis. The thing that we all have to get our heads around is, if we give away what we produce, how do we derive income to live of? Something I struggle with daily! Cheers Paul Hi Chris,

Great post! I agree with all that you have said. We are holding kids and teachers back. I know myself that even the time that it takes me to acknowledge the media I use in presentations and postings is time consuming and can be the straw that does it for the busy teacher trying to use ICT in classes.
On the other side, Chris Morris above has a point.
Like a lot of things, I think we are in a transitional period and I think that like you and I, most people with something to contribute will be happy to share them gratis.
The thing that we all have to get our heads around is, if we give away what we produce, how do we derive income to live of?
Something I struggle with daily!

Cheers

Paul

]]> By: Chris Morris http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/08/06/the-remix-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Chris Morris Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:11:39 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/?p=366#comment-1146 Hey Chris, Interesting post. I must say, the question I pose to kids is....since when was music ever free?? I can vividly recall my first LP..Dire Straight's 'Brothers in Arms'. It took me a month to save up for it. Having been in a band, and forked out some of my hard earned for some 'studio time' , should there not be financial remuneration for those who have spent money to create a project?? The flip side is bands like 'The Nine Inch Nails' realise that current marketing models/copyright models do not work and have made their recent albumn available to be downloaded and 'mashed up'. That's my two cents worth anyway Hey Chris,

Interesting post. I must say, the question I pose to kids is….since when was music ever free??
I can vividly recall my first LP..Dire Straight’s ‘Brothers in Arms’. It took me a month to save up for it. Having been in a band, and forked out some of my hard earned for some ‘studio time’ , should there not be financial remuneration for those who have spent money to create a project?? The flip side is bands like ‘The Nine Inch Nails’ realise that current marketing models/copyright models do not work and have made their recent albumn available to be downloaded and ‘mashed up’.
That’s my two cents worth anyway

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