Comments on: The Trust Gap http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/ education + technology + ideas Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:22:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: moodleman http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-945 moodleman Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:36:02 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-945 I am struggling to keep my expletives in check, but I promise I'll try. I get extremely annoyed at the current attitude shown by educational bodies towards digital information. While I certainly agree that the safety of our students should always be a priority, this metod of sticking our collective heads in the sand and hoping it will go away is just plain ludicrous. Many schools currently block valuable e-learning tools like YouTube and forum based sites stating child net safety as a core reason. Yet it is a known fact the YouTube is used by nearly all web enabled students and their parents the moment they get home. Rather than hiding our eyes in the dirt, should we not be releasing these tools back to our teachers and students and focusing on the pastoral as well as curriculum based education we now provide in blended environments. Teach the students how to ignore links and foul comments in comments. Tech them what is appropriate or not to upload. Engage them and educate them on the correct and powerful uses of these tools instead of just hoping they pass us by. I guess much of the mentality with the bureaucracies is also this need to pander to the minorities for fear of litigation. For that I have no answer. :( But I do hope that education and IT related managers can start seeing past the issues and to the core of what we should be doing. Engaging and Educating our students while enabling them to be safe and aware online. I could rant on for ages. Maybe Ill turn this into a post on my own blog later. Thanks Chris however for making myself and others more aware of the issue. I am struggling to keep my expletives in check, but I promise I’ll try.

I get extremely annoyed at the current attitude shown by educational bodies towards digital information. While I certainly agree that the safety of our students should always be a priority, this metod of sticking our collective heads in the sand and hoping it will go away is just plain ludicrous.

Many schools currently block valuable e-learning tools like YouTube and forum based sites stating child net safety as a core reason. Yet it is a known fact the YouTube is used by nearly all web enabled students and their parents the moment they get home. Rather than hiding our eyes in the dirt, should we not be releasing these tools back to our teachers and students and focusing on the pastoral as well as curriculum based education we now provide in blended environments. Teach the students how to ignore links and foul comments in comments. Tech them what is appropriate or not to upload. Engage them and educate them on the correct and powerful uses of these tools instead of just hoping they pass us by.

I guess much of the mentality with the bureaucracies is also this need to pander to the minorities for fear of litigation. For that I have no answer. :( But I do hope that education and IT related managers can start seeing past the issues and to the core of what we should be doing. Engaging and Educating our students while enabling them to be safe and aware online.

I could rant on for ages. Maybe Ill turn this into a post on my own blog later. Thanks Chris however for making myself and others more aware of the issue.

]]> By: Alyson http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-943 Alyson Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:52:31 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-943 What???? Check out: http://putnamfl.blogspot.com/2008/02/reflections-on-teaching.html This is what it is all about. Alyson LID 01/27/06 What????
Check out: http://putnamfl.blogspot.com/2008/02/reflections-on-teaching.html
This is what it is all about.
Alyson LID 01/27/06

]]> By: Anthony http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-941 Anthony Sun, 23 Mar 2008 06:09:44 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-941 Hey Uncle Chris... since I haven't seen you in a while I just thought I'd post in a comment on here to let you know I'm starting work for a Webhosting Company as a Customer Service Tech working on Plesk + Cpanel CentOS Linux Servers down in Canberra Cheers Anthony Hey Uncle Chris…

since I haven’t seen you in a while I just thought I’d post in a comment on here to let you know I’m starting work for a Webhosting Company as a Customer Service Tech working on Plesk + Cpanel CentOS Linux Servers down in Canberra

Cheers
Anthony

]]> By: Chris http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-939 Chris Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:43:18 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-939 Wow, thanks Mick. That's a very nice thing for you to say. When you bolg regularly it's easy to feel like you're just becoming part of the "echo chamber" of the edublogosphere, and end up merely restating things that others have already said (much better than I could). One of the great aspects of being exposed to these big discussions that takes place online is the multiplicity of viewpoints that we get exposed to... just take a browse through the comments on Al's blog for example to see just how many points of view exist about this incident. Sure, many of them are the same, offering support and sympathy for Al and the kids, but there are insights there and angles for looking at what happened that I never would have thought of. This is the really powerful part of "the conversation"... having your own outlook pushed and pulled and reshaped by the ideas of others. It certainly helps me make connections betwenen ideas I would never have thought of. Thanks again for the feedback. Wow, thanks Mick. That’s a very nice thing for you to say. When you bolg regularly it’s easy to feel like you’re just becoming part of the “echo chamber” of the edublogosphere, and end up merely restating things that others have already said (much better than I could).

One of the great aspects of being exposed to these big discussions that takes place online is the multiplicity of viewpoints that we get exposed to… just take a browse through the comments on Al’s blog for example to see just how many points of view exist about this incident. Sure, many of them are the same, offering support and sympathy for Al and the kids, but there are insights there and angles for looking at what happened that I never would have thought of. This is the really powerful part of “the conversation”… having your own outlook pushed and pulled and reshaped by the ideas of others. It certainly helps me make connections betwenen ideas I would never have thought of.

Thanks again for the feedback.

]]> By: Mick Prest http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-938 Mick Prest Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:21:08 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-938 Chris, I want you to know that those of us who have a life really appreciate your ability to collect our thoughts and publish them for us!!!! You actually do it much better than I could! Great article, I will be passing it around to a few who should know about it (so the won't have the same knee-jerk when some of our teachers get going!!) Chris, I want you to know that those of us who have a life really appreciate your ability to collect our thoughts and publish them for us!!!!

You actually do it much better than I could!

Great article, I will be passing it around to a few who should know about it (so the won’t have the same knee-jerk when some of our teachers get going!!)

]]> By: Jane Nicholls http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-935 Jane Nicholls Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:26:25 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-935 I just watched this TED talk and was so motivated! What an inspirational idea! I had not made the connection to the minilegends until you blogged it. I must admit I did think about the fact that all those volunteers would have to be police vetted as they were working with the kids. But the minilegends are doing the same thing virtually, surely that reduces the risk! Would be interesting to float the minilegend idea on the webite developed (onceuponastory.org) for the TED wish and see the support it garnered. I just watched this TED talk and was so motivated! What an inspirational idea! I had not made the connection to the minilegends until you blogged it. I must admit I did think about the fact that all those volunteers would have to be police vetted as they were working with the kids. But the minilegends are doing the same thing virtually, surely that reduces the risk! Would be interesting to float the minilegend idea on the webite developed (onceuponastory.org) for the TED wish and see the support it garnered.

]]> By: Andrea Hernandez http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-934 Andrea Hernandez Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:24:00 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-934 I agree with you, it is all quite insane. There is so much fear surrounding the Internet and children. I think the risks have been way overblown. There is a lot of ignorance, too. People will say "blogs-- those are bad." When I question this further, it is clear that the person making the statement doesn't really know what a blog is. They just heard somewhere that blogging was "BAD." I know that this is all part of change and growth. In a few years, this closure of blogs will seem ridiculous, like the dark ages. At least that is what I believe. I loved your comment on Al's blog; to me that comment really said it all. I agree with you, it is all quite insane. There is so much fear surrounding the Internet and children. I think the risks have been way overblown. There is a lot of ignorance, too. People will say “blogs– those are bad.” When I question this further, it is clear that the person making the statement doesn’t really know what a blog is. They just heard somewhere that blogging was “BAD.” I know that this is all part of change and growth. In a few years, this closure of blogs will seem ridiculous, like the dark ages. At least that is what I believe. I loved your comment on Al’s blog; to me that comment really said it all.

]]> By: Belinda http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-933 Belinda Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:21:26 +0000 http://betch.edublogs.org/2008/03/20/the-trust-gap/#comment-933 Go Australia! And I was telling my American friends last month that I thought Oz was a leader the world in online education! D'oh - guess I should be taking that one back. This event is as depressing as kids failing their exams for setting up a study group in facebook :-( Boo hoo - is my Online Education masters in vain? - B Go Australia!

And I was telling my American friends last month that I thought Oz was a leader the world in online education! D’oh - guess I should be taking that one back.

This event is as depressing as kids failing their exams for setting up a study group in facebook :-(

Boo hoo - is my Online Education masters in vain?
- B

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